First Ban Appeal of Xenosphere | #FreeAlf2016 3.0

alfogus
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First Ban Appeal of Xenosphere | #FreeAlf2016 3.0 Aug 13, 2016 1:43:47 GMT

Post by alfogus on Aug 13, 2016 1:43:47 GMT

Key: Alfogus

Character Name: Pe'par Lionhart

Date you were Banned: 8/11/2016

Reason: This wipe you were giving one final chance, we've been more than lenient. Flaming, harassing multiple admins, breaking conjure rules, spamming conjure to send ooc messages to people..

Who banned you? (Or in some cases, who do you think banned you): NevetsDBM

Transcript:

OOC: Nevets_DBM: Funnily enough guys, after running a server for quite a long time, I understand the consequences of various year speeds and why to adjust them.

OOC: Revenantofdeath: Brodie

OOC: Alfogus: nigga no u dont

OOC: Alfogus: this ain't fucking finale

OOC: Revenantofdeath: What server did you run?

OOC: AnimeisCool: ^

OOC: Alfogus: shut the fuck up

OOC: Alfogus: and quit

OOC: Xaldian: lol

OOC: Alfogus: u faggot

OOC: AnimeisCool: @ alf

OOC: Alfogus: stop rewriting the past

OOC: ZeroistheKey: lmfao nigga alf goin in for no reason

OOC: Alfogus: tryin to fool yourself into thinkin u was better the u wasn't

OOC: Revenantofdeath: Nevets, no one even likes yo ol crusty ass.

OOC: Tgyhu8: ok ok ya'll

OOC: Tgyhu8: take it easy

OOC: Max_SteelF: At this rate

OOC: AnimeisCool: LOOOL

OOC: Xaldian: isnt this why he was stripped in the first place? trying to control shit all the time

OOC: Tgyhu8: cheeeeeell

OOC: Max_SteelF: Ssj will be given early

OOC: ZeroistheKey: LOL niggas about ot get banned

OOC: AnimeisCool: OOC LIT LMAOO

OOC: Revenantofdeath: Go back to fapping to furries

OOC: Xaldian: any small lowbie with DA can hit ssj atm

Conquest takes off the 20322lb Weights.

OOC: Revenantofdeath: And let the real admins to their shit

OOC: ZeroistheKey: Xal he quit cuz the community was starting to be trashy

OOC: Revenantofdeath: cAuse you on some bs

OOC: AnimeisCool: niggas finally tired of the admins im stressseddd

OOC: Max_SteelF: DA?

OOC: ItoxBladeReborn: (LOL)

OOC: ItoxBladeReborn: death anger

OOC: Zero_Legacy: I been tired of admins since they did my android wrong >.>

OOC: Max_SteelF: Nah fam

You have been banned by nevetsdbm.

Reason: This wipe you were giving one final chance, we've been more than lenient. Flaming, harassing multiple admins, breaking conjure rules, spamming conjure to send ooc messages to people..

This is a permanent ban.

To try to resolve this matter head to dbzphoenix.proboards.com/index.cgi
(<--Nigga Fix this shit)

First off, lets start off on the 'breaking' of the conjure rules. 500'000'000-1'000'000'000 for the price of a conjure, which is only a temporary summoning of a demon, is freakishly absurd and gives no room for any RolePlay, sure, some people can manage to pool that in after making a monopoly on Mana across the universe, but for most whom actually care about RP and don't waste their life away farming pylons, that is an absurd amount for something that's temporary. Lets move on, shall we?

Let's go over what brought the 'flames' down upon you. First off, you killed my RP by the omitting all my demon interactions up to that point, and then later redacted that and simply said, "Omit your conjure" though you didn't have any problem -not- giving me my energy back, whilst you were quick to nerf me -way- down then I should have been nerfed.. Then, after which, I requested to go to the Afterlife, I paid the price of mana, but the portal didn't seem to be working, so an admin XYZ'd me to AL. I remained in AL for several hours, and when I was ready to return to the living realm, due to our lovely new Owner Jaja, I was killed because he didn't know what XYZ teleport was even though I dropped the 10'000'000 mana to create the 'portal' back, which I now find out, the initial admin shouldn't of even allowed me to go to AL in the first place.

So lets see, go over it quick, you omitted a majority of my RolePlay, nerfed me far more then I should have been nerfed, didn't give me my energy back, took my Mana, and caused me to die because of your -OWN- OOC Complications. Oh, and lets not forget the fact that I reported I was Non-RP'd thrice, yet one of your admins had the audacity to give me a warning because I was, "disrupting RolePlay due to personal OOC Issues" i.gyazo.com/70bfb46eb820f008b38aed454c2ba751.png

It was quite clear what I was disgruntled about, yet you decided to legitimize why I was non-RP'd, because they Non-RP'd me because I was complaining about how the Admins rigorously raped my character with no lubricant, balls deep. Hear that guys? You can Non-RP anyone that badmouths admins, even with a legit issue.
I believe that wraps it up, however.

Last Edit: Aug 13, 2016 1:45:07 GMT by alfogus

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First Ban Appeal of Xenosphere | #FreeAlf2016 3.0 Aug 13, 2016 18:39:45 GMT

Post by Nanie on Aug 13, 2016 18:39:45 GMT

I would like to publicly voice that we should take a good look at what is going on here.

If you want to really hash out the facts here, I believe that banning is usually the last resort to an extreme situation. Personally, I feel banning should only be set on someone for the sake of keeping server stability.

It has become apparent that we have been seeing a lot of actions that are extremes rather than trying to just solve problems. Honestly I think this is the result of the good ol' us vs them mentality. The playerbase, unhappy about some actions that the admin team has done, has started to have times where they will prepare to roast the team in groups. This isn't most of the players mind you, maybe 10 or so, but that's about what 10% of our population actively voicing that they aren't happy with certain arrangements.

When faced with that kind of thing, and when being spoken to in a rude way, it is easy for someone in a position of power to forget their responsibility to use that power correctly. Honestly I do not believe a ban was warranted in this situation. You don't need to love each other to try to work together on things. Furthermore, there were several procedures on our end as the Admin team that were not followed, such as not posting text copied from logs (including player IP, PCID text along with character name and OOC name, that is a huge security risk and a big blunder).

I was not the one who banned you, but I am voicing publicly that I feel this was kind of a terrible display of inexperience. I voice that we should unban you, and I suggest that if you encounter issues with our admin team try to speak to them in a respectful way. People tend to mirror the tone of the speaker. It's really hard to be a dick to someone who is polite and presenting facts, but it's really fun to say fuck it, let's turn the troll up to ten on this guy because he's an asshole.
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If we are going to have a good future it's only if we all decide we're working together and playing the same game, same rules.

There is also a perspective shift I must voice that is probably apparent now but in the past this game has been run with the idea that 'everyone has a right to play it until they mess up.' Now it's more like, if you build it, they will come. There are some situations, such as making sure potential DDoSers stay off our server where we need to cross that border. That idea unfortunately also seeps into people's minds that people who are apparently trolling should go as well.

Stripping of the related skills that were misused would be what I would think is fair. Even if the dude did a lot of shit with Conjure it provided a good amount of momentum for RP. That and he's a rank. I mean it's kind of his role to help generate fun stuff. Yeah it was still power abuse and should have been reversed, but guys, we approach this situation with facts and measuring the actual weight of things. Don't let yourself get hot when you enforce, you'll look like a hilarious douchebag.
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It seems that this ban has also been set in place due to actions in the past beyond this specific event. I'm not a fan of leaving someone in the dark and just breaking away in a discussion, so I will elaborate a little.

In the past we've had a lot of issues with people attempting to do things to the server such as a DDoS strike, sending keyloggers, various other things. I've helped us take a firm stance of if someone was part of any of that they don't really deserve to be around on the server. Apparently there is some reasonable ground that people have worries that you were involved in similar behavior.

Unfortunately, as much as I just talked up on how I don't agree with what happened, I also don't blame people for keeping potential threats off of the server. I have no proof of this and am not accusing you of anything, but for the full story it really has a lot to do with past actions. It was apparently the intention that you were to be permabanned to begin with.

Edit Note: I compiled your three posts into one.

Last Edit: Aug 14, 2016 5:32:42 GMT by admin

Nanie Admin Head Admin Head Administrator Posts: 22	First Ban Appeal of Xenosphere \| #FreeAlf2016 3.0 Aug 15, 2016 7:36:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Nanie on Aug 15, 2016 7:36:22 GMT Officially unbanned. As HA I am not in favor of this ban being in place and have, with discussion with other administrators, revoked the ban set in place.

First Ban Appeal of Xenosphere | #FreeAlf2016 3.0

Post by alfogus on Aug 13, 2016 1:43:47 GMT

Post by Nanie on Aug 13, 2016 18:39:45 GMT

Post by Nanie on Aug 15, 2016 7:36:22 GMT