Complaint about God Nevets (Again)

Your personal opinion really isn't even relevant, regardless if you are being paid a wage or not, you are held to a standard of professionalism, telling a player you don't give a fuck what they have to say is very foolish when they are the bloodline of the game itself, if you don't care for what they have to say, then they'd just take the leap back across the pound if yah catch my drift.

Also, someone isn't going to be pleasant nor really civil when they feel they've been screwed over, and they are entitled to their own opinion which you, as an Administrator, is suppose to listen to. Back on the SE Admin Google Docs, there was a very lovely ethics of Administrators which was drafted by Xioshen. Though this is a completely new game, your post is violating those it looks like : /

Random Question: What is your status as an Administrator? What is your job?

"Firstly, let's not pretend you've been pleasant and civil as of late. When I wouldn't pander to you when you came to me with false rumours about admins, you started getting very, very hostile in OOC, taking shots constantly."


saiyanhalfie : To be fair people aren't usually at their best when they feel pressured. Honestly too it is worth mentioning that he was against wiping to begin with as he felt it was unfair to the people we had promised the update would be around for. Reading the rest of the thread now, one sec.

nevets : I understand you have a level of endurance, just like anyone else does, for dramatics. I'm also sure there's probably more to this chat than I see. But as a member of our staff you represent us as the face of the game. If someone is bothering you and you do not feel as though you will be civil with them, do not interact with them, get another administrator with a more level head to communicate in your place. It's totally okay to be like "I don't really have the time for this conversation, let me get someone else who does." Who are we to ask anyone to be civil if we ourselves do not present this as an example? Also, to be fair here, this isn't exactly an easy topic to approach as I set this in motion.


"telling a player you don't give a fuck what they have to say is very foolish when they are the bloodline of the game itself"


THERE IS 100% TRUTH TO THIS. You would be a fool not to listen to this sentence very carefully.


In reference to imgur.com/a/jTdAU
saiyanhalfie : A lot of pressure has been put on the admin team recently, as well as Nevets personally. Text is kind of a bitch and when you read it you give it emotion and meaning based on your brain's current perception. Reading it from his perspective I could see "So when people lied to the admins with made up reasons for space travel, and got approved, you were just like fuck it unlock it?" capable of being read as though it were instigating an issue. However, I could also see it being read in a casual tone of a legitimate question. I'd ask you throw the guy a bone on this specific situation, not add it to the stack of stuff if that's cool. This just boils down to a sign that Nevets is fatigued mentally when it comes to talking with people he feels are at odds with him.

Whether this thread exists to inform, instigate, or question your capacity as an administrator Nevets, the way you react to these kinds of situations will define you more clearly than anything in the past. This is the now. If you overstep your bounds I will not be dealing with you with mitten clad hands. Please understand that you have indeed crossed a line of professionalism when you lose your cool. This is entirely fixable as all of us are quite human, and all of us fuck up. Generally the best route is facing it head on and being honorable about it. Apologies and asking how they feel you can be a better service to the game can do a lot of good. Believe it or not, the guys who voice the loudest objections about us tend to see the things we don't want to see about ourselves.


"all I did was poke at you in OOC"


Nevets, as far as I know people love me (currently) and I get shit here and there too. Sometimes I'm like 'what the fuck?' I most of the times just roll with it and it usually turns out I'm just being teased. It's actually kind of funny because since I have issues with anxiety sometimes I worry people are all pissed off about shit when really they aren't at all. And if it turns out they are pissed off about shit, I brave it and figure out what I can fix.

It is also worth saying though guys that being able to handle situations like that is a skill some people are just good at, some people aren't. Nevets is currently assisting with ideas and balancing things, as am I in the background. I haven't had much to do with the current update as I've been away, but our lead coder Ginseng has decided to place faith in him for some reason. It is totally possible that a guy can be bad with customer service but a great engineer. That being said, I haven't actually been part of too much design wise other than suggestions as I'm garbage with code. For the moment he is actually primarily that role and to a far lesser extent an administrator.

Being an administrator though means he will be following our ruleset. I have developed a system in which we're supposed to be handling things, and he'll be adhering to that if he wants to continue being on as an administrator. To be blunt and fair guys, I'm 100% capable of having him not be an administrator at all and still focus on his own thing for Ginseng. But I walked into this scene with a lot of people mad at each other and drama clouds a lot of things. I'd much rather give a genuine effort on my part to teach and lead people rather than cut and run.

Long speech was long, but I hope I covered all the bases here. Thank you for bringing this up SaiyanHalfie, and the input, Alfogus.

Posting here is a great way to go about that process. If Ginseng and Jaja have banned someone I can't really undo that, but I would suggest taking a different approach than posting a post that - while in a respectful tone - is still not very well thought out imo. Whatever reasons they have for banning you, if you think you have a good bead on it perhaps you should try to figure out what could have caused them to ban you over it. If you feel it's reasonable, own up to it. If you don't feel it's reasonable, open a discussion with them about the situation privately. But you'd probably wanna avoid calling them butthurt if you want to take the latter approach.

Slinging passively worded, but ever present insults in an appeal is a good way to not be taken seriously at all.

Would be fun if anyone cared you know?

OOC: Alfogus: Kabella says, "[i even gave jaja proof of nevets trying to cyber me, asking me to make a FEMALE PIKKON to have babies with him and cyber AND everytime i would log in he was pester me "
OOC: Alfogus: Kabella oocly says, "[using the admin he noted my ip address so i couldnt even make alts]"
OOC: Saiyan Holocaust: Wasn't that
OOC: Saiyan Holocaust: first one already debunked
OOC: NoveltyBucket: Well I mean, Jon's still admin after straight up abusing tele to split train so all bets are off.


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